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Puzzles where it's possible to beat the yardstick 9 Years, 5 Months ago Karma: 7  
I've discovered at least one puzzle on the
9th and 10th levels where it's possible
to discover a shortcut that was apparently
not realized by the creators and testers.

I achieved a score over 900 on one of the
9th puzzles and it's really not that
original or inventive. It's fairly standard.

Have any of you been able to exceed a 1,000
score on any of the 9th or 10th level puzzles?

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Re:Puzzles where it's possible to beat the yardstick 9 Years, 5 Months ago Karma: 8  
No idea of that. It's amazing!!!

You caught me, now I'll have to retry levels 9th and 10th again in order to find out that.

Does "at least one puzzle on the 9th and 10th levels" mean 2 puzzles in total?

Great guy, thanks for the news Adam.
 
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Re:Puzzles where it's possible to beat the yardsti 9 Years, 5 Months ago Karma: 7  
Adri,

Well, that's great to learn something
new about those levels.

I believe that at least one of the 9th
and one of the 10th level puzzles are
fairly easily "trumped" through some
sort of manoeuver that wasn't anticipated
by the testers.

What seems to have taken place in the construction
is that the creators took a mean score of the
testers and subtracted one second from the
time and left the moves the same. That's
why apparently you can achieved a few seconds
less than the standard time on most if not
all of the 100 puzzles.

I take it you have not exceeded 1,000 points
for any one puzzle. I wonder if anyone has.
I believe that I had 938 as my highest score
for one puzzle.

Take care,

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Re:Puzzles where it's possible to beat the yardstick 9 Years, 5 Months ago Karma: 8  
Hehe, no no no, I haven't exceeded 550% (as most users I think).

And you have 938% as your highest score... in fact, I believe that's world's highest score in 100-test .

Anyway, if you could do it, that means everybody can. Let's go for it!!



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Re:Puzzles where it's possible to beat the yardsti 9 Years, 5 Months ago Karma: 5  
Is it real?
Is it 938% or score 938? They are different in one puzzle.If it is the first one,I can just say "oh, my god!"
 
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Re:Puzzles where it's possible to beat the yardsti 9 Years, 5 Months ago Karma: 7  
Adri,

Sorry to disappoint. The score (not the percentage)
is 938. Is the score generally double the
percentage? I'm still not sure how the scoring
works.

I was wondering if anyone had topped the 1,000
mark for scores. Have you attained that yet?

I thought that maybe the creators were throwing
in a "bonus" for those of us who are rather
awkward and slow at matching the required number
of moves. Maybe others have achieved
similar results.

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Re:Puzzles where it's possible to beat the yardsti 9 Years, 5 Months ago Karma: 7  
Bernie,

See my response to Adri.

No, it's the actual score, not the
percentage. I'm not that good.

As I said, it wasn't that original.

Still, for those that find other puzzles
rather cumbersome, it might provide a
decent boost to one's score.

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Re:Puzzles where it's possible to beat the yardstick 9 Years, 5 Months ago Karma: 8  
Oh, now I see what you mean...

Actually, I was completely shocked when at a first instance I thought you completed one exercise with a percentage of 938%.

But yes, you can get 938 and even more points when solving officialy the 100-test. It follows an easy rule. Depending on the level in which you are, there will be a fixed number (representing difficulty) by which your percentage is going to be multiplied. It's like this follows:

-1st level: x2
-2nd level: x2.67
-3rd level: x3.25
-4th level: x3.74
-5th level: x4.14
-6th level: x4.46
-7th level: x4.7
-8th level: x4.87
-9th level: x4.97
-10th level: x5


So if you had at level 9 938 points, that means that you had 188.7% in the puzzle.

And yes, 1000 points can be overpassed... more than twice... Currently, the highest score I think it's 2261 points (of course, it's also the puzzle with the highest percentage).

I hope it's more clear now for you how the game functions.

But anyway, thank you for the comment Adam.
 
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Re:Puzzles where it's possible to beat the yardsti 9 Years, 5 Months ago Karma: 7  
Adri,

Thanks for that explanation.

Actually, I believe that the
percentage that I got was
closer to 400% but I'm going to
have to review my score because now
I've completely forgotten what the
percentage actually was.

If I do beat the score listed on
the spreadsheet in the google documents,
should I take a video of it and
submit it to the spreadsheet meister?

--Adam
 
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Re:Puzzles where it's possible to beat the yardsti 9 Years, 5 Months ago Karma: 7  
Adri,

I just checked my score again.

I had actually achieved only a
188% on that 9th level puzzle.
I'm not sure if that score was
reflected in the spreadsheet
with the highest scores for the
100-puzzle test.

Tonight, I've retaken this test
and now exceeded the 200% for that
particular puzzle.

I'll send you a photo of my score
or whoever compiles the data for
the spreadsheet.

--Adam
 
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Re:Puzzles where it's possible to beat the yardsti 9 Years, 5 Months ago Karma: 7  
Adri,

Now that I've double-checked it,
I haven't caught up with RDNS_DC.

Almost but not quite.

Attached is the picture of my most
recent results.

--Adam
 
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Re:Puzzles where it's possible to beat the yardstick 9 Years, 5 Months ago Karma: 8  
Check the pic again, I can't see it.

But I think you refer to 9-6. Yeah, Dragan has a really good mark, but yours exceeding 200% is also quite good. Just try a bit harder and you'll also have Dragan's score.

Don't worry about the spreadsheet, you just tell me your scores and I'll update it for you. Otherwise you create an account on gmail and I'll send you the permission to modify it.
 
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Re:Puzzles where it's possible to beat the yardsti 9 Years, 5 Months ago Karma: 7  
Adri,

I'm not sure if I can attain
that maximum but I'll give it
a shot. I thought that I had
discovered this amazing short-cut
and it's already taken..

Hopefully, this file will attach
ok. It's a smaller file than the
picture that I tried to upload
before.

Take care,

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Re:Puzzles where it's possible to beat the yardstick 9 Years, 5 Months ago Karma: 8  
At this point of the game, where lots of high-scorers have updated the spreadsheet it's very very complicated to find a way to solve a puzzle which noone else has found.

Nonetheless Adam, keep trying hard, and maybe you'll amaze us with an outstanding score and become part of the "PQ2 Gods" .

Cheers,

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Re:Puzzles where it's possible to beat the yardsti 9 Years, 5 Months ago Karma: 7  
I've now achieved the same score
as RDNS_DC on 9-6. At this point,
all I can see happening is beating
it by one second.

Oh, well...Admittedly, I was hoping
for something a great deal more
dramatic.

Your score on 9-9 is most admirable.

All that I've been able to achieve
on that puzzle is 1:02/2 and that was
after some work.

--Adam
 
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Re:Puzzles where it's possible to beat the yardstick 9 Years, 5 Months ago Karma: 8  
Hehe, for 9-9 as for the rest of non-obvious exercises I guess you'll have to devote (as I've done) nights and nights.

But finally the results come, and then you think that it's been really worthy.

By the way (and just to show off ), the score of which I feel prouder is 4-10. If you could only equal that score that's enough for me to consider you a highly dangerous rival for the Master rank.

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Re:Puzzles where it's possible to beat the yardsti 9 Years, 5 Months ago Karma: 7  
Adri,

You and Bernie have the same score of
0 moves and 34 seconds?

I have tried that puzzle several times
and can't beat 2 or 3 moves (I forget
which one).

I do prefer the puzzles where one has
to focus on the process of beating the
puzzle rather than avoiding detectives
but there are certainly decent challenges
involved in both types.

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Re:Puzzles where it's possible to beat the yardstick 9 Years, 5 Months ago Karma: 8  
Ago

I did beat Bernie's score at 4-10 and instead of 34 I do 28 seconds (the solution is great).

Adam, I can understand:

I do prefer the puzzles where one has
to focus on the process of beating the
puzzle rather than avoiding detectives


But the thing is that by avoiding detectives and reducing the number of moves (although you might increase the goal time) the percentage improves radically, and that is the final aim of a PQ2 player (besides enjoying the game and challenging yourself ).

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Re:Puzzles where it's possible to beat the yardsti 9 Years, 5 Months ago Karma: 7  
Adri,

In the final analysis, I must agree with you.

You're right that it does radically increase
your score to avoid detectives rather than
piling up blocks in their path so that they
don't catch.

I suppose that that is a "primitive" way to
go about it, though.

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